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Welcome to Ashley On, your one-stop podcast where we talk about health and wellness, spirituality and all things new.
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Hello and welcome to the show.
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Today we welcome...
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Shoban McGuire, back to the show.
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Always good to catch up with Shoban.
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We're talking about the opportunity to restore a better balance to our society in terms of the masculine and feminine balance and what that means in terms of finding the kingdom of God within.
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We talk about the fall of the goddess rule at the time of Atlantis.
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We talk about the twin flame between the, you know, the desire to and the quest to unite the male and female.
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And we talk about healing the Adam and Eve within by shedding the vices and bringing in the virtues.
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It's a really great show.
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I hope you enjoy it.
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And like I said, Siobhan McGuire is always great to have on the program.
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Her voice is very calming and her perspectives are quite valuable to us all.
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So thank you very much.
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Hello, Siobhan.
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Welcome to the show.
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Welcome back.
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So great to see you.
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Hi,
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Ashley.
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Thank you.
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Thank you so much for having me back again.
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You haven't had enough of me at this stage.
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This is my third time in front of you now.
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So I really appreciate you inviting me back here again.
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It's great.
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Well, I really enjoy talking to you and you're becoming a regular.
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So this is fantastic.
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I just appreciate you taking all the time that you do for me and for the show, our listeners.
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because I know that I could just tell by the number of views that we're getting with your episodes, you're resonating with my audience.
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So I really appreciate you in every episode you come on.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for the opportunity to share whatever wisdom and guidance that I channel, you know, spirit channels, lots of information through me.
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And I'm just happy to have, you know, a platform through your podcast really to share that.
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Thank you so much.
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Well, thank you.
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And again, and today, you know, you'd shared with me, um, you wanted to talk about the, um, the need to restore the masculine and feminine balance in our, in ourselves and in our society and our world.
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Um, so I'm excited about that.
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We, I just did a episode recently with Margaret Starbird and we talked about, uh, Mary Magdalene and it's a very similar type of topic and conversation.
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And the fact that the, the feminine has really been stripped from our from our world and our society.
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And so when you reached out with that as a suggested topic, it kind of hit because it's completely, it's synchronicity with what I just talked to Margaret about.
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And so there must be something in our world that we need to explore on this topic more.
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So thank you for suggesting that.
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And I'm just going to give you the floor now to kind of open up that conversation.
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Well, I mean, you have to look at it on a sole purpose level.
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The biggest sole purpose we have coming into this lifetime, or let's say the biggest opportunity as souls that we've been given this last lifetime, is to become ascended masters.
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So what we mean about an ascended master, ascended master is a soul who has mastered all energies, physical, mental, emotional and spiritual.
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And irrespective of what is happening in our environments around us, we're able to to hold our light, hold our frequency at a high level.
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So that is what's been offered to us in this lifetime.
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And let's look, you know, Jesus Christ is an ascended master.
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So we are being given the opportunity in the human vessel now in this lifetime to be like Jesus.
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And he came in as that great teacher to teach us to walk his path to walk on the same pathway as he did, to enable to become an ascended master, to go through what is called an ascension process.
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So part of that ascension process is us, first of all, recognizing not just the male aspect of God, but the female aspect of God as well.
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So the male, the father God being the alpha, the feminine God being the omega.
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And in the early, you know, the Gnostic Christian teachings, they very much, they use the name Christos Sophia, you know, really representing both the masculine and feminine aspects of God.
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The Christos, both as the logos, the word of God.
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And then the wisdom was really that Sophia, that feminine aspect, that feminine wisdom.
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And it's recently, and I've talked to you about this before on your channel, Jesus said those words, it was so powerful about our return to Eden.
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The feminine is the lock, the masculine is the key, and together we will open up the gates together.
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to the Garden of Eden again, as in we will allow heaven to be on earth again.
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And as we all know, we can create our heaven or we can create our hell on earth.
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It really is a choice.
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And that is the biggest challenge at the moment.
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People not wanting to take responsibility for their own lives and where they are in their soul's evolution and their own shadow selves.
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So We're being offered an opportunity at this moment in time to go in, have a look at our lives, do the shadow work, what aspects of us that need to be healed, and then accept the light of who we are, the truth of who we are as divine beings of light, as Christed children of God, our Christed child within our hearts.
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And this is the biggest gift.
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The kingdom of God is actually within our own hearts.
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And as I've said before as well to you, Ashley, you know, our greatest gift to this world is our heart, our heart love, our heart light.
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And it is our greatest protection as well.
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So it is all within.
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And all the time we spent most of our lifetime looking outside ourselves to fill ourselves up and as an empty vessel, thinking that we need to consume that which is around us, rather than going within and realizing everything we need is already within ourselves.
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You know, we came in as that divine masculine, divine feminine Christ.
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That blueprint is already in our heart, in the divine spark within our heart.
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And it is up to us to find it again.
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And it's buried and buried and buried through layers and lifetimes of wounding.
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And anyone who believes, I guess you have to believe this and understand this, you do need to believe in the concept of incarnation, reincarnation, because we have all spent several numerous lifetimes in both a male bodysuit and a female bodysuit.
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So the imbalance that we see on the planet at the minute between the male and female is is not the blame of those in a male bodysuit in this lifetime or those in a female bodysuit.
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We are all equally responsible because all of us are part of having created this imbalance that has happened in the first place.
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And I don't know if the last lady you spoke to, you know, shared, I mean, this all really goes back to the fall of of the goddess temples way, way back in Atlantis 10,000 years ago.
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And when the decision was made for the patriarchal control to control the planet, to control humanity, to control society, so the men were to rule and the women were to step back, step down and take very much more a subservient role in society.
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And let's face it, that hasn't worked out very well for us all because the world at the minute is, you know, there's so much war, there's so much separation, there's so much pain and suffering on the planet.
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And I mean, Jesus has recently said to me, you know, it's very much, we have created the situation specifically very much, I think, from this year, 2025, There is no gray area anymore.
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And you're either going to choose the path of the light or the path of the shadow aspect.
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We're going to make it so easy and so clear for you to make the wise choice.
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And so a lot of people, even in, let's say, the spiritual community or the light working community, a lot of times we would step from one side and we would, you know, choose sometimes back, forth, back, forth.
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But he said, there's no more time for that.
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There's such an acceleration of energies on the planet at the minute that the light, this planet is ascending.
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Humanity as a collective is ascending.
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Whether you choose to ascend with the collective or not is completely a choice that your soul is making at this moment in time.
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And in order to, let's say, as he says to me, return home whole, you must bring the masculine and the feminine that is within you back into sacred union within yourself.
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And I would say most of your listeners are familiar with the term twin flame, the twin phenomenon.
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And the twin flame phenomenon, so what is a twin flame?
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A twin flame is just where a very highly ascended soul has decided to split into two aspects of themselves, the male and the female.
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And a number of those very highly evolved souls have decided to incarnate some into female bodies, some into male bodies.
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And their whole modem through operation of coming together, they are going to find each other on this planet.
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They will have this massive soul urge, massive soul drive to be magnetically pulled back together.
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in the physical and create that physical secret union together.
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Now, in the spiritual community, there's so much on social media and on YouTube all about this, you know, about finding your twin flame soul.
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And it has been very highly sexualized in not such a nice way.
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And back in the early days, the golden era of Atlantis, the whole idea of...
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sexuality, it was very much about emerging of energy fields, emerging of auras, emerging of chakras, energy wheels, rather than what we would say today as sealing the sexual act, the orgasm, the very much short, spontaneous moment in time that you had, let's say your closest, you know, touch into what it feels like to be godlike.
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So we have sort of lowered the vibration of sexuality within humanity because we've connected it purely with that physical act.
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rather than a sexual union of the whole chakra column coming together and mind, body and spirit.
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So it's a union of the whole rather than humans thinking of that secret union being just a sexual union.
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So let's see, if we look at the physical experience that we have, the two biggest challenges that we have as humans is number one, navigating human emotions.
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That's our challenge.
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It really is.
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And also navigating sexuality.
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Because it is the one aspect of us that You know, we can choose great light or we can choose very great darkness.
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There's such a polarity in between the same and the human emotions.
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You know, we can choose poles apart there.
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So that is the test, the initiations and the challenges that when you come into a human vessel that you're going to face.
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And the end result is you want to master those emotions.
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You want to master them.
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the sexuality, which is the male and female aspects of yourself coming into balance, harmony, and then ultimately back home into sacred union together, you know, within.
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And when you can balance them within your own self, then that means that you are potentially a magnetic match to a sacred divine partner in another bodysuit, let's say.
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But one thing which a lot of people don't understand as well is not every soul that's incarnated on this earth has decided to be in a twin flame dynamic.
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A lot of us have decided to come down and meet God.
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various soulmates and we can have a beautiful, sacred love partnership with those soulmates and experience everything our soul needed to experience on this journey.
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Because a lot of times our twin flame chose to stay on the other side, to be able to guide us from the other side.
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So that doesn't mean that we're any lesser souls than those who decided to come in together at a similar time to be able to come back together is that physical union in physical bodies.
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There's no hierarchy as such, but just those souls that have chose to come into sacred union as twin flames in a physical vessels together, boy, oh boy, are they very challenging relationships because they have chosen to come together to be master teachers for humanity.
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And they will go through very, very, very powerful initiations and tests.
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So extremely challenging lives.
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those souls will go through.
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I mean, the ultimate twin flames that we are aware of is Jesus and Mary Magdalene themselves.
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They were twin flame souls.
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You know, Jesus was the masculine Christ and Mary Magdalene was the feminine Christ.
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So together they came together in secret union and they came together and they activated the seven chakras of each other together back into secret union.
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So, yeah, There is a lot of misunderstanding out there within the spiritual community as well about, you know, people thinking that their their twin flame is just going to be magnetically attracted to them.
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The reality is this is a process and it's a it's a process.
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It's a work in progress as in it's a labor of love.
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You have to work through this.
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You have to work through your masculine wounding, your feminine wounding of all the lifetimes you've ever lived.
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Because every single one of us is carrying the wounds of the masculine and the wounds of the feminine.
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And I was actually shown this really, really right in front of my eyes.
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I was down on the beach.
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It was last September.
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And I was doing some breath work and I usually always go to the beach in the morning just to really connect and ground in the spirit and to meditate.
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And I immediately was shown a vision of several lifetimes of me just coming towards it, just let's say versions of me coming, walking towards me.
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But they were wounded aspects of me as lifetimes of me in a male body.
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And it was incredible.
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It was just walking towards me as if they were walking back home into me.
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And then after about, I would say about 15, 20 minutes, then all the female wounded aspects of me started walking towards me as well.
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And as each one of them was stepping back into me, I was feeling all the pain and the suffering that that soul had gone through, all the wounding that was still, let's say, unfinished business.
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And it was very powerful and very emotional as that was happening.
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And at the end of that, I was able to bring those aspects of me back into a union within my heart.
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Now, I've been through several initiations with Jesus and Mary Magdalene because I channeled the essence of both those souls and they have stepped into me several times and come into secret union within my physical body.
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And, you know, I run a workshop on that, the secret divine mask and divine feminine Christ stepping back into secret union within you.
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But this was a whole different level.
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This was allowing me to really go so much deeper into the shadow aspects of myself, the unfinished business, the unfinished karma that I hadn't completed.
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So.
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Me, they want me to be a teacher.
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So what their community, I'm just a messenger.
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The message is not me.
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I'm just a conduit of that message.
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The message is for humanity, you know, as a whole.
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So basically they guided me then to create what is called, they told me, we want you to create a master series called Healing the Adam and Eve Within.
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You know, so the healing, the wounded masculine and the wounded feminine within.
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So allowing them to come back into secret union with themselves as healed and hold vessels, you know, because you can't descend in this lifetime until you've healed all shadow aspects of yourself.
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So, you know, it was a very powerful journey that they took me through.
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Not only did they take me through a journey, now this happened from last September and I've just completed it actually with a group of souls just last weekend.
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So that was like a sixth, seventh month journey they took me through of feeding me various downloads because you cannot absorb all of this at one go.
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So they'll come through in piecemeal downloads and basically you I literally was then able to put it together as a collective grouping of five different lessons that they took me through to then be able to share with other souls in order for them to go through the process themselves.
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But it's so powerful because when we look at what is going on in the world around us, you know, When we look at the female, there's so many wounded aspects of the female out there.
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And one of the bigger challenges that, you know, the souls that went on this journey with me was the female aspects, the wounded aspects of ourselves was being the victim, playing the victim and the male being seen as the perpetrator.
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of an abuse.
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So the male being the abuser, the female being the victim, you know, and then another aspect of the of the feminine would be very much being the pleaser, having to please all, having to please everyone around.
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So never, you know, stepping back from love of oneself rather than having to please everyone around them, rather than actually understanding you must please yourself and become whole within in order to be able to share the highest aspect of yourself with others.
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So there was just all these little nuggets of wisdom, not just as a process of going through, I would say, initiations and remembrances that we were able to really heal some very deep locked aspect of ourselves that we didn't even know that was inside us.
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Really, really powerful insights.
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So when Jesus and Mary Magdalene downloaded, you know, the wounds of the feminine, the wounds of the masculine, they also told me we need to look at healing the vices.
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So shedding the vices and healing.
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and integrating the virtues back home into ourselves.
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So just healing the lower aspects of ourselves.
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So for want of a better word, a lot of people would, I guess, understand in the Catholic Church, we would have been called the seven deadly sins.
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You know, it's much gentler aspect.
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I would think wording to call it the seven vices and then the seven aspects.
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So the higher parts of ourselves, we want to we want to reintegrate and welcome back home into our hearts.
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So it's it's very much it's all about going into the heart.
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And at the end of it, you open up your sacred heart.
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And once we bring the vices in, you know, back into a state of healing.
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And there's so many aspects of these vices you go through and they give me such a clever visual to be able to take people through a process again and again and again.
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And this is something that people are not going to do in a day or a week or a month.
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This will be a process and you can spend, put it this way, it's like peeling back the layers of an onion.
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You may peel all five lessons back once.
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Three months later, you might go back and go, I'm going to go in and see what is next ready to come up and go in and do it again.
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This is something, this is like a tool you can have forever.
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You know, it's just there.
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It's a series of meditations and video teachings.
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And it's so powerful.
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And they ended it so beautifully by bringing forth your inner child.
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So having a look at your Christed child within and the wounded inner child within So that scared part of you inside of you that's hiding inside.
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And most of us don't know we've even got this aspect of ourselves.
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And it's usually hiding in one of our organs or multiple organs.
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And it's about finding them so easily and then bringing the Christ to child and allowing both of them to hold hands and merge together as one and walk home together as one, healed and whole.
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So very important.
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And it's so beautiful.
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And it's just allowing you to see, to be honest, actually, the beauty that's actually within ourselves, because, you know, we've, you know, especially those brought up in the church, we can feel ourselves with these big sticks about, you know, wrongdoings that mistakes we've made in the past.
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And as Jesus said to me before, you came here to make mistakes.
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You came here to learn, to grow, to evolve.
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but you're evolving upwards.
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You know, the main thing is, is that you keep on putting one foot in front of the other and keep moving forward on the ascension process.
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And there's 33 steps on that journey, you know, and most of us in the spiritual journey are very, very high up there.
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We're much higher than we even, even would like to acknowledge ourselves, you know, but we've allowed at this moment in time.
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And I don't know, Ashley, if you agree with me this, but I feel it from a lot of my clients as well.
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2025, a number of people in the spiritual community, even as well, have stepped back a little bit into fear.
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Mother Mary stepped in a couple of weeks ago and she said to me, only a third of the lightworkers on the planet at this moment are operating at the level they need to be at this moment in time.
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Not enough of the lightworkers are stepping up to the next level.
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So let's see it as you're cycling a bicycle along and you want to change up gear.
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You know, you want to move up to the next level.
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They're just they're deciding just to stay put or even go down a little bit.
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And because, you know, it's that old fear, you know, it's that old patriarchal fear program or major patriarchal fear program stepping back in.
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And they're going to go that fear of my security, safety and survival back.
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How much are my stocks and shares worth?
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How much is my property worth?
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So they're going into survival mode of the here and now, rather than looking at the bigger picture of where is my soul on its journey of evolution in this lifetime?
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Because that is the important thing that we're supposed to be focusing on now, rather than getting fixated by the illusion of fear and that is around us.
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And that illusion of fear is like a roller coaster, even in the stock markets.
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It goes up and down that ebb and flow, keeping you as if you're walking on eggshells all the time.
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And it's going to keep you in a state of fear.
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If you lock yourself into seeing your life as being positive or negative by following the stock market, You know, you're not going to enjoy every day.
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You're here to enjoy every single day.
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So what's going to happen in the greater world out there, you personally don't have control of.
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But what you do have control of is how every day you're waking up and showing up in the world for your own self.
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looking after your own self, your own thoughts, how you are with your partner, your husband, your wife, your kids, your work colleagues, your neighbors.